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| Super Goku | Jul 22 2009, 07:56 PM Post #1 |
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Android 17 vs. Meta Cooler. Discuss Meta Cooler was almost tied with SSJ Goku and SSJ Vegeta. He barely lost to them cuz they teamed up. Android 17 fought against the new Kami-Piccolo, who was extremely strong. They basically tied. I'm pretty sure Piccolo was stronger than SSJ Goku or SSJ Vegeta at that point. Now they both have infinte energy. The rule with Meta Cooler is that he can't make more bodies, he only has one. He can regenerate that one body as much as he likes though. I'm not sure who would win. I kinda wanna say Meta Cooler, cuz he wouldve destroyed SSJ Goku had it not been for SSJ Vegeta, and I dont think Android 17 could of wrecked a SSJ as fast as cooler did. So I think Meta Cooler. |
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| * Psyam | Jul 22 2009, 08:04 PM Post #2 |
 
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'Tis a good match up indeed. I want to vote for #17 but I think logically, Meta Cooler should win for two reasons: His regeneration (which makes him stronger every time as it fixes his flaws) and Instant Transmission. Meta Cooler seemed much more comfortable using IT a lot in battle then Goku does. I don't think he'd hesitate to abuse it. I think #17 would have a small power advantage, but I don't think he'd be able to destroy Meta Cooler. It took everything both Goku and Vegeta had to destroy him. They collapsed afterwards if I remember right. ...so yeah, even if #17 crippled Meta Cooler, he'd fix himself and be stronger then before. That combined with a possible Instant Transmission Supernova would make Cooler the most likely winner. |
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| BUU | Jul 22 2009, 09:54 PM Post #3 |
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I say Meta Cooler because he was just too much for Goku and Vegeta until they used up all their power. Plus, if Android 17 does defeat Cooler will regenerate and come back stronger than before. Unless, Android 17 uses his unlimited energy as an advantage to keep on ki blasiting Meta Cooler while he's regenerating, Cooler would most likely win. Also, as shown in the movie, Meta Cooler's armor is quite durable; it takes a great ammount of concentrtion to pierce it with melee attacks. As for instant transmittion, I'm a little confused. If I remember correctly, you need to lock on to ki signatures to use it, but since Androids have no ki signature, is it possible that Meta Cooler can still use Instant Transmittion? |
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Jul 23 2009, 05:49 AM Post #4 |
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Cooler can use instant transmission any time he likes as far as I know. Cooler wins also, because Goku is about on 17's level to begin with at the time he fought Cooler (if it was pre-Hyperbolic Time Chamber). When Piccolo became a "Super Namekian," he wasn't even as strong as an ascended saiyan. He fought about on par with 17, and was actually beaten to an extent by Imperfect Cell. |
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| ryanson209 | Jul 23 2009, 06:34 AM Post #5 |
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I put a tie. As 17's power source never goes out (if I remember right), and Cooler can keep on coming back, it's a pretty hard match for me. The details about Cooler's Instant Transmission is a good move, but 17 has that energy field. He only used it once, but it blocked one of Piccolo's best moves. Idk, to me it's a tie. |
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| Meta Cooler | Jul 25 2009, 12:00 AM Post #6 |
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Meta Cooler. He wasn't even scratched in the battle vs. SSJ Goku and SSJ Vegeta. They only ended up killing him because they got to the Big Gete star. Meta Cooler is obviously much much more stronger than #17. Super 17, maybe not. #17, definitely. |
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| Sam | Jul 25 2009, 12:13 AM Post #7 |
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Maybe not? I wouldn't place Meta Cooler any higher up in power level than SSj Goku [Boo Saga]. 17 would have a small power advantage, but, as others have stated, Meta Cooler is nearly flawless. He would win, in time. |
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| * Psyam | Jul 25 2009, 12:22 AM Post #8 |
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Again, why do you say "without a scratch"? Vegeta and Goku beat the first Meta Cooler. #17 is likely stronger then him, even if he is your favourite character. I'm not saying #17 would win, because he wouldn't, but his power is likely superior to Meta Coolers. Meta Cooler would only win (if there was just one of him) through his regeneration.No, Buu is right. I forgot that Instant Transmission requires a Ki signature to home in on. #17 is an Android, so like Buu said, Cooler wouldn't be able to use it, unless his is a different version to Goku's. Also, Brian, #17 and Piccolo /w Kami are both stronger then SSJ Vegeta/SSJ Goku by a decent amount. #18 thrashed Vegeta after his initial burst, and #18 never showed any signs of being in danger. Vegeta at that point was said to be stronger then Goku, and #17 was suggested to be slightly stronger then #18, though probably not by much. In other words, Piccolo with Kami = #17 > #18 > SSJ Vegeta > SSJ Goku, so Goku and Vegeta in the Cooler movie would not be as strong as #17, they'd be quite a bit weaker. And from that, it can probably be assumed that Meta Cooler would struggle with #17, but his regeneration would make him the likely winner, assuming his energy never runs out either. |
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| Meta Cooler | Jul 25 2009, 12:39 AM Post #9 |
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"Again, why do you say "without a scratch"? Vegeta and Goku beat the first Meta Cooler. #17 is likely stronger then him, even if he is your favourite character. I'm not saying #17 would win, because he wouldn't, but his power is likely superior to Meta Coolers. Meta Cooler would only win (if there was just one of him) through his regeneration." - Psyam Dude - I'm not saying Meta Cooler would win because he's my favorite character. Meta Cooler is stronger than SSJ Goku. SSJ Goku is a hell of a lot stronger then #17. |
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| RyDub | Jul 25 2009, 12:49 AM Post #10 |
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I am going to go with Android 17 here. I think his unlimited power source would prevail and he would just keep blasting Meta cooler with wave after wave of Ki blasts until nothing remains |
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| * Psyam | Jul 25 2009, 01:03 AM Post #11 |
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I'm sorry for that, but it's just when you said: I was wondering just how much you favour Meta Cooler, because obviously you seem to like him, right? Sorry for that anyway. What? No he's not. After time chamber he is, yes, but not before. He hadn't been in the time chamber yet when he fought Meta Cooler. SSJ Vegeta (who at the time was stronger then SSJ Goku) got thrashed by #18, and #17 was even stronger then #18, even if it wasn't only a small amount. |
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| Sam | Jul 25 2009, 06:16 PM Post #12 |
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Exactly. SSj Vegeta was stronger than SSj Goku by a bit, yet he lost to #18 by a large margin [doing no damage to her] and even then, #17 is slightly stronger than #18. |
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| BUU | Jul 25 2009, 07:02 PM Post #13 |
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Now, I'm a little doubtful that Meta Cooler would win easily. He still has a chance, but not as much as I thought. He mostly just dominated Goku and Vegeta because of Instant Transmittion, but if he can't use it, that would give him a slight disadvantage because it's one of his signature attacks. Android 17 also has unlimmited energy, so he can blast Meta Cooler while he's regenerating. And since 17 is a machine, he won't get tired, but then again, neither will Cooler. Although, as shown in the film, Cooler is extremely durable. No matter how strong you are, you have to foccus your ki to pierce his armor with melee attacks, but since 17 doesn't have ki, he might not be able to pierce the armor. If this is true, Cooler certainly has an advantage in melee attacks. I think Cooler will win by a small margin because of his regeneration; he keeps on getting better and better. |
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| * Psyam | Jul 25 2009, 08:46 PM Post #14 |
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I think #17 would have the clear advantage in the battle, due to him being above SSJ Vegeta and SSJ Goku by a fair amount, but I don't think he could finish Cooler off, and Cooler would just get harder to destroy every time he regenerates and fixes his flaws. Eventually Cooler would get a crippling hit on #17, then it'd be over. |
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| Nothing | Jul 26 2009, 05:11 PM Post #15 |
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Well the fight of two machines...one an Android other a cyborg-mutant freak, well i will have to go with #17. Meta Cooler done good against Goku ssj and Vegeta ssj, but they destroyed him in the end. Meta Cooler has that annoying self repair thing and that save him a couple of times. As for #17, Future Trunks stated that androids have unique power cores which makes it so that they can never run out of energy, unless they are heavily damaged. In the end i think that #17 would win but it would be a close one. #17 can use that Ki shield of his and make Cooler's attacks do no damage at all,but on the other hand Cooler can repair him self from any damage #17 does to him. As for the Cooler's self repair technique, that is not fair...his self repair technique is linked with Geti Star...so basically it is the Star's master computer that is repairing him and making him stronger every time, it is not his own power(like Piccolo's or Cell's regeneration). If #17 first destroys Geti Star and master computer inside of it...then Meta Cooler would lose his repair ability and it would be GAME OVER for Meta Cooler. #17 wins !!! 
Edited by Nothing, Jul 26 2009, 05:13 PM.
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